Lifting The Veil

TWWS Join Your Due Date Clubs, Share Your Info

June 19, 2013
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Becky James shares the following story with us.

I have a name to add to the list for a troll(from TWWS) that has been detrimental to a few people, including me

This is who started online bullying me on TWWS in late march and in the past has picked at peoples’ lives who have UC’d and who are mentally ill or who have gotten treatment, but she refuses to accept that they have.

Jacquelyn Buesch, jbk21(MDC), tofuscramble(TWWS), HopMama (TWWS)

In late March, I thought I was pregnant(it turned out I was, but had a false negative). I was an avid user of MDC and had no issue sharing my life with them, just as they did with me. We had become tight knit and seemed secure…. So I thought. It turns out, there were people going behind my back, mainly Jacquelyn, and going to TWWS to report any mishap in my life. But the worst bit was when I thought I was pregnant and asked them on my birth board about cervical position and cervical mucous and whatnot. She IMMEDIATELY assumed I thought I was pregnant, just because I didn’t know EXACTLY what was going on with my body and went to TWWS, and they started tearing me to shred from that point. A 30-something page thread was written mostly about me and how “sad” my life is and that I’m delusional, etc. And how someone should “help me” since my life was such a mess. Urgh!

I discovered that their “writing voice” was EXACTLY the same. Then I called tofuscramble out on being jbk21 when I was on TWWS. She and an admin IMMEDIATELY jumped on me about “no other aliases and no real names”. So I know it’s her.

I used to be Facebook friends with her. Like a year ago

On our due date club board on Mothering.com, we all shared our facebook profiles and friended each other.

There were people in the [hate] thread that are in my area (which was shocking because im in a kind of small area) and said they knew where I live and my phone number and shared it with others. Very disturbing.

I didn’t confront her on her FB. She had me blocked at the time. She blocked me because she was talking about me and if I found out, she didn’t want the drama to be pulled into the more “real” part of her life.

Thanks to Becky for being brave enough to let us publish her story and use her name. If any of you have a story you need to share, anonymously or not, don’t hesitate to contact us. We are putting a stop to these bullies, with the truth.

Jacquelyn had no problem getting close to someone in order to affect their personal life and share all their info, but put all the breaks on her own profile as soon as she was found out. She didn’t want anyone interfering with her personal life the way she had Becky’s. She can be found here:¬†
https://www.facebook.com/jbuesch

Please think twice before friending people you don’t know, especially from parenting forums and Due Date Clubs.

 


Online Bullying Club for Mothers: TWWS

June 17, 2013
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“We aren’t really trolls!”

Trolls With Wooden Spoons is a forum that is more or less a club for women to get together on the internet and bond over judging other women and mothers. It’s not just that, it’s so much more. It’s a place to plot and scheme. Small plots involve just deeply hurting feelings of people they’ve been quietly watching, or on nice days ripping their lives to shreds for entertainment without inviting them to witness it. Bigger plots involve stepping into the personal lives of their targets in various menacing ways.

Some people are only familiar with either this group, or the Dr. Amy trolls. Not everyone is familiar with both. The line blurs sometimes, however, and sometimes the same members are found in each. At the end of the day a troll is still a troll. Even if each group thinks they are special or different from the other, their behaviors and reputations are pretty much the same.

You’ve heard the common refrain– “disagreeing is not trolling!” Of course not, but that’s not why you’re trolls. From Fed Up with Natural Childbirth, the snark site Trolls With Wooden Spoons is brought up.

^ Also, Trolls are smart even though there are homebirthers there, and others (including Stacey Westover Martin) say that they are part of that forum, too.

It’s kind of interesting, since there have been problems between these groups of trolls before. (See: Trolls Collide). It even gets referenced over here, at Mama Tao (run by Dr. Amy trolls). It’s worth noting that chronologically, this image \/ actually takes place before the one just above.

Likewise, TWWS often complains that Dr. Amy and her trolls are far more cruel and closed-minded than they could ever be. Neither one seems to realize just how similar they are to the other. They are all in total denial of their level of malice.

The next couple of pics below show ongoing snark on one particular woman they found on a parenting forum. The woman has had an unassisted birth. They pool resources and try to sleuth how to interfere with her life, including future births.

How do people come to be trolls? Sometimes they start off as women who’ve been targeted and come to look up to the bullies. Here’s troll Zilch’s introduction.

Zilch (aka Charlotte Cohen) would go on to be a very involved troll, doing activities such as using Facebook to message the friends and relatives of people she was targeting, as a “warning” to them. Some people so admire abusers, they want to copy that “strength” and become abusive themselves. She won’t tell you who she was when she was being mocked, but she assures she can troll with the best of them.

“I don’t appreciate being called a troll!” we often hear. Tell us one more time, please, how you are not trolls.

Trolls of any kind really just crave a sense of belonging, and in their warped minds this is best done when getting together with others to tear other people down. Needing a group that feels supportive is something we all feel from time to time. If your group is dedicated to tormenting strangers and you call that fun, you’re a troll and a bully. You’re wrecking real lives. You don’t even really know the people you choose to harm. You earned your title. Your group isn’t actually helping you, it’s enabling your sick behavior. Get help.


Marlet/Cassie + TWWS: Keeping Families Apart?

June 17, 2013
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This is Cassie, aka “Marlet” on Trolls With Wooden Spoons. Here on a picture taken from her public Facebook profile, you can see her freely reference TWWS with other members.

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^Bottom left: other troll “Nicole Freebirther Patras” happens to be in the same Henderson group that Cassie is in and comments within, right.

Notice how Nicole says she is from San Mateo, CA. Nicole was thought to be a sockpuppet of Florence Brun Tirakayos, who has previously been thought to be located in San Mateo (but is definitely connected to Southern California).

Here is the description for the Henderson group, followed by evidence of ongoing threads at TWWS on the topic. Marlet participates. Also thrown in is Marlet’s MDC info.

marlet2Here TWWS discusses the family, including things they feel are wrong or abusive about the family. They go on to talk about things you could only know in the private group for The Hendersons, and a sad situation regardless of your opinion on the family is chased for “snark” and “fodder”. Because, sad family situations are amusement for trolls, no matter how much concern trolling is done to mask it.


Other TWWS members wonder who Cassie is, but Marlet doesn’t out herself. Instead she makes sensational statements about herself, attempting to add intrigue to the situation.

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We don’t know much about the Henderson case. We haven’t kept up. We don’t know who’s right and wrong. We only know that the Hendersons are trying to get their kids back, they believe they were taken completely unjustly, they have several (public and private) support groups set up regarding their attempts seeking justice, and TWWS are infiltrating these groups. The weakest side of the spectrum for infiltration involves being amused and entertained over family tragedy. The worst side of the spectrum involves actively attempting to keep a family they’ve never met apart.

The Henderson group already believes that TWWS is responsible for real interference.


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